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#BCSTech Podcast - Episode #6 - Larry Bell. Instructional Technology Coordinator Scott Webb (@Swebb_32) hosts the #BCSTech Podcast featuring the great Larry Bell (@GoodGuhGaMooGah). Bell is a National Presenter, Educational Consultant, and Author. In this episode, we discuss Larry's passion for teaching and students, helping Bradley County Schools, and his successful strategies for helping students achieve at their highest level.

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going to the BCS Tech podcast some instructional technology coordinator thanks for joining our show today our first episode of 2019 we are excited listen I pulled out when I pulled out one of the big guns for our first episode of 2019 everybody in the area we said who do we want to hear from the name that came up the most was a man whose put on probably the best in service I've ever seen since I've been teaching the system for 22 years but two years ago this man blew us away mr. Larry Bell free today Scott I am wonderful I am blessed to be in this County and Larry what you been able to accomplish and we'll get into to all that but you can really feel the impact in the energy of of of what year you're trying to bring out and teachers and students yes I am just so pleased as I traveled around the district to see so many teachers who are excited about the kinds of things I've been talkin about and using the strategies that I have brought to the Forefront I see it all over the district you guys are wonderful well Larry thanks for thanks for being on on the show today I reached out to Terry Murray and said yeah Terry we got this podcast thing going I got to have him I've got it I got his picture on the website I got he's been doing and he just when he walks in the room the room just explodes with excitement and enthusiasm and and that because that's what about your background for we get into all the things you how did you get into education how did that how did I have always find the journey four for four people to be interesting how they got into education I got an education because when I was very young I had teacher that took a big interest in me and even though I was from a very poor background they really pushed me and and and told me I could do great things and so I watch those teachers operate and I thought I want to do that want to be the difference I want to make a difference in somebody's life and it's funny Scott because first I just wanted to be a PE teacher I wasn't happily I was an athlete to I just wanted to coach football and and just and just be around kids yeah and that's how I started out but as time progressed and I went through the different levels of becoming a teacher I realized that the academic part of teaching in that class we could really have a profound effect some kids and really not test from the academic standpoint but from the affective domain touching hearts and changing lives that way I guess we all kind of take that Journey we all well think education from the outside is one thing but then once you take that step and into it and gave me I want to coach football and and and went this is probably the third time I've had this exact same conversation with people on the park it it morphs into something else and you realize the impact you're having on kid's life and you can't find that I haven't I haven't found it anywhere else anything else I do it's really profound how that kind of touches you as a teacher well it's funny because my favorite saying and many teachers have it on their walls in Bradley County on your worst day on the job you are still some child's best hope and that doesn't refer to academics we get into this for whatever reason we get into it but like you say it morphs into so much more because we see the impact it has on the child's overall life which teach them how to do this or that what they learned from us is that they are capable what they learned from us is that they can do things with their life they never thought they'd be able to do what they learn from us is that living is so much more than just existing and that they can do great things and so I agree 100% it's it's it's always been to me that the the part of the job that is it's been the most fulfill you know I've got students I used to teach a b production this kind of this stuff right here and I've got Student Center on TV and TV but I'm not that I mean although I'm proud of that it's the kid that that I've helped through an issue or crisis me I can think all the way back to my early years and teaching that that kid that comes to you in tears about and you're able to help them move their something doesn't have anything to do with what you're teaching but you know I'll probably outside the clergy there's nothing there's no other place that you can Define in kind of make that kind of impact Hallett I mean L Scott I saw it today and the young man is a teacher at one of your Middle School's and he actually is a coach and he coaches wrestling and he has a young man he all this teacher also works in special ed and this young man has a family most of the family doesn't really speak English that well and this young man is a special ed he walks with kind of a little lamp that type thing right and this teacher has taken this young man under his wing and I'm going to tell you something Sky standing in that Middle School here in Bradley County that man made me cry because he talked about what this just being a special ed teacher just being a wrestling coach what it had done not just for the young man but for his entire family and it reminded me why we become teachers in the first place oh my gosh you're right the impact oh my gosh we're going to talk about power forwards in a little bit but that's a power teaching a lot of work with with with the teachers in our district what what are something that that you tried it took Kapoor into teachers to to kind of help them will talk about strategies and all that for for testing but but the the passionate what do you what do you want to pour in the teachers when you when you stand up front of him and start discussing some of the things that are going to happen in in in in a session with you saying I want to first get teachers to understand from my workshop is that passion is important if you want people excited Buddha will be that which you expect of others if you want kids excited for your class then you need to be excited for your class if passion is important than model that I want them to take away from me that make the issue of Engagement that whatever strategies you have you must make those things engagement and that something's got that I'm seeing here in Bradley County I have seen nowhere else in America Bradley County Teachers engage the students let me tell you here at Walker Valley high school and at Bradley County Central High School when you come into the classrooms as I have visited them you should see the way the chairs are arranged in non-traditional methods for the seating is excellent and the teachers are going out of their way to make sure that the students are engaged in and learning and you don't see that many other places and that's something that I have been exhorting teacherzone to do so yeah the strategies that's one thing but the passion showing the love that is all hey tomorrow to students that you believe in them and some you know it used to be Scott and education that some teachers would say what I don't do touch it feeling I am so glad now that everyone is understanding that relationships is very important if you don't have a relationship with the kid then you can't if I'm trying to teach this kid math if I don't have a relationship with that kid then I'm not going to be able to he's going to tune out the Mastiff if you don't believe in the kid I saw it today right here in Bradley County against God how was in a different middle school and how is this Dynamic math teacher and she put the kids in poop she walks around to put your hand on their shoulder as she speaking you can tell those kids really relate to her they like her they want to work for her and when you can get it's to the point where we scared don't want to let you down they were do anything they'll learn that material because of that relationship some people but some people will say what kids are change kids are different now are they different or or how do we look at how do we view them is that different talk about times have changed but children students are the same they want somebody to care about them and when they find someone who cares about them they would do anything for that Purcellville latch on one thing they'll at your own they want somebody to believe in them still and will you show that tell you believe in them by saying you can do it this failure right here is just momentary how to make it they want people in their life to tomorrow for them to give them structure still and if you don't give them the structure that of course they're going to act out a certain way but when you provide that what is change with the children the approach some people give to children or protect children may have changed but the children the same as I got here the last couple of days and already in the I want to the halls of Bradley County Schools I've been to practically every school except maybe to and the respect that the kids have in the school system is phenomenal phenomenal high school and the students were lined up at the front door at the office to do something was a long line and they were quiet respectful waiting their turn because that's what you guys expect out here not inside other areas in schools that I work with that would have been chaos in that hallway you stepped on my foot get out of my way I was here first but that's because that's what that expectation is that you should have a changed if we shall we great things from them still they get that if they if we don't expect it well we'll get that things and that's on us isn't it it's it's on us to continue to raise that expectation level it it starts with building the foundation and building relationship but that's now you got to raise the bar and say hey now it's time for you I believe in you Larry I believe in you Larry now we're going to do this and I think I think that's kind of the background of a lot of the stuff that you talk to people about when you when you're when you're presenting strategy stuff we got to build that Foundation then we work then we're going to work I expect you can do that and I'm going to give you support to get there and then I'm going to hold you accountable for doing it as a student for that's that's powerful and itself right there it's it's not just hey this is the expectation but I'm holding you accountable yes and I'm going to follow through and that's what I say to teachers tell the students they can do it and believe in them but with a if they don't do it you need to be right there to say I just expect so much more than this out of you you are better than that don't let me down like that and you don't no one can lie low expectations and so you got to pump them up but when they fall you got to pick him up and use up leftover Amelia Cornucopia strategies if you must to beat that fiduciary for learning for all of God's children men who have to get excited hey we're always excited first listen I've seen this man do presentations at my office is down at the annex on the south side of town and he's had special and some other groups in there and it's it's like a already going on with my Larry's doing the training cuz he's excited and and you can see that passion in what he does but are you had the opportunity to work with with some of the the leadership here in the district you know what what are the types of things that you're trying to convey to them as your looking through those trainings as I work through the training with the leaders the main thing there is that you have to do for the leaders what you want them to do for the others for the other followers if you we're going to ask your teachers or ask the people in your building to do certain things number one you got to be willing to get in there and do that too and then number to do you got to be water to give them everything they need to be and I got to tell you Scott that is the great thing about Bradley County you guys have ways that your leader gives so much support to everyone out here but I want those leaders to do what they want the others to do present the material follow up on it hold people accountable and what if it's not done right then dogs on it make sure that it gets done it's it's it's simple but it's it's not isn't it well it's simple to do the Heart part 4 some people is to face that they are pushed back that they may get when people don't want to change we could we could spend a whole a whole ever hold on that and its changes if it's difficult isn't it it is very difficult and even when people are not succeeding it is hard for them to change into something else because they what day is it it's their comfort zone and it's hard and it's hard to get people to move out of that but it's it's I guess it's it's our job as as leadership to presented to them why this change is appropriate and help facilitate that change and be there for support the be there to help when they when they stumble and fall and MB that safety-net and allow them to the freedom to go ahead and make the change and try those things here's what I hear about the leadership out here Scott from teachers and administrators I hear that the leadership out here gives people the free rein after they have select them to do their job and that doesn't happen everywhere something one of micromanage but I hear they picked the right people they got him and let him go the other thing I do you ask about what do I do with the leadership out here what's the things I do is provide data and research to back up the effectiveness of the strategies I bring and the back up the effectiveness of of effective leaders so we speak to show that he does want the date shows what makes by you know William Sanders with teva's or I was not that popular I guess what weather is with Dr Carl Rogers and his book called the freedom to learn about leadership you know I show the research and the data to back up what I'm saying and I hope that that gives a little impetus for people to try the things and they do best practices that are research-based and it and that's the key is it it's it's we don't want throw things at the wall we want to be doing things that are systemic that are proven to work that that show the success and impact ultimately and helping our students achieve yes and that is what it takes Lily to reach some of them more resistant recalcitrant teachers or we can resist that we cash administrators they want to know and see the data that shows it works and what and I'm proud of Bradley County because as a result of many people go by in last year to the strategies that I brought you know that we're research-based and everything but you had many schools out here that have improved dramatically and the principles gave much have the credit to the Larry Bell strategies that we use O'Leary bail strategies take a short commercial break we come back we're going to let him talk you haven't heard about these strategies if your parents out there listening to this wanting to hear what is it what am I kids are talking about the 12 words or unraveled they want under they don't understand what that means we're going to Larry and opportunity to talk for just a few minutes on on a strategies and and and again I want to thank Larry for for joining us here on the BCS podcast write a short course for breaking will be right back after this hello this is Siri Marie Federal programs director Bradley County Schools did you know that it each School in Bradley County there are many opportunities for parents or Guardians to be involved in their child's education these opportunities are available to equip parents or Guardians to assist their children in becoming successful throughout their education the best return on your investment Bradley County Schools growing students building futures put it back to the BCS Tech podcast some instructional technology coordinator scotweb joints a day by the the Larry Bell I got to tell Larry he's first visit to Bradley County Schools he pulled two people out of the audience to dance in front of everybody and yours truly me and Susan will cut or the or the victim what day is what happens I haven't sit on the edge of the Isle at any kind of meeting since then cuz you never know and Larry's going to grab somebody and make them come up and start dancing with him so my first experience with Larry Bell is he put me in front of a 2000 today you don't have to dance a little up here so so Larry thanks for joining us again Larry is it has been a big asset to the county over the last couple years he has spent a lot of time and effort and energy and trying to to help our schools continue to grow we at we had we had a good school system for Larry Bell got here on Larry's pushing us to that to that great leveling and and trying to help Elevate what we're trying to do in class it and Larry you've got a lot of strategy that you've been trying to help and Grain and into the teachers into the administration here in Bradley County and I and I guess it starts with with building that relationship doesn't it it does it does Karen and thank you and your I did not realize that you would want to do that was me that was a head come up there and I was I was about three three weeks on the job and my new role and my first my first no big event as it's a technology coordinator and Larry puls Rollins and sticks me up front and makes me dance so I'll never forget that so you think he was modeling modeling fashion cuz if that's for sure it doesn't have to be excited but Scott you're right it starts with relationships and so the first thing you want to do as a strategy you know it's the bill that relationship whether you are a parent at home or a teacher in the classroom relationship with that child is the most important thing so that should be little things as parents I'm sure you want to say to the child everyday I love you I believe in you I expect you to do great things well guess what in the classroom with the gray teachers is the same thing I love you you're wonderful I expect great things and to be consistent with it you know that's one of things I talk about you know I say do it systematically is called 7317 * in our parents and tea call somebody in that room call your child wonderful let him know you love him three times an hour brag on them brag on a child because they went to school on time bragging on the child because they came to class on time Bragg on a student just what effort that's a big thing so you have to have strategies and be systematic with that relationship Larry what would you say to people that says you shouldn't be doing that because then all that's doing is just boosting that kid up for no reason you know what do you say to those kind of cynics that you know that they don't believe in that that power of positivity well coming out of how a private university there is a lot of research that shows that a child will don't learn from an individual that dead that they don't do not believe believes in them and there's as much research out there that shows and tell very I'm trying to think of one of the basic ones right now but it's at I put them up in my workshops all the time that shows that the importance of the relationship cannot be overstated and that anyone who does not try to build that relate is not going to be as effective as they could be if they did develop the relationship right so it's it it's that kind of establishes the base hey hey we we as as teachers we've got to we've got this end time and got to do it purposefully spend time building building relationship building that trust build a building that respect and that love with our students absolutely I meant that is absolutely critical and I'm so glad it points got that many people around the nation now in the field of Education have started to I realize that for years many of us I was a high school teacher when it was high school people you know we always said I don't do touchy-feely but again the research is very very clear that if you don't establish that relationship there's an old saying kids don't care how much we know until they know how much we care absolutely and so that is what that first part is about with relationships Larry what's the next step once you've kind of established that weird we go where we want to go now and what my neck strategy of course has been 2 vocabulary peas and I say to every parent and I say to every teacher that the key to a child learning is a capillary they can't do a thing on this Earth if they can't communicate if they can't read those things are Paramount and they answer thing things got the reason I push vocabulary so much I walk into a place was it let me use a couple places in Brantley County very proud of there's an elementary call Oak Grove than Elementary call Parkview and those teachers were doing very well before I got that they will work very hard but yet the level that they were performing at was at ones and twos and that's where they practically were the whole time when I came in this time and said and vocabulary and do my 12 words every day order thinking words that kids know what's being asked and expected of them on exams because they were teaching the material right it wasn't that the kids didn't know the material they didn't know how to answer the question that is exact play right and so when Parkview came back with all of these fours and fives and only for the normal ones and twos are you last year that's my Jody Grant or not there that my Jody amen she's wonderful and they jump up and and all fours and 5 I was so proud I was proud as a dog with two tails when you look at Oak Grove out there oh my gosh with buck and those people they became a level 5 school of Oak Park School District 2 in the county Walker Valley and Oak Grove and exemplary on top of that and when I walk through the building yesterday and today but yesterday I was at OVO and I see the vocabulary signs up I see the kids singing the songs about the 12 words I see examples of it and to see that they have done so well with it and I know they're not the only two and I apologize that I am all of them that jump tremendously like that but that's the end cabinets now they know how to answer the question Scott the teachers here were already doing a great job of teaching before Larry Bell it was in them but like you said the kids just didn't know how Tim was the question was just given the strategy to move from the knowledge the kids had and allowing those kids to be able to produce on I don't want to get into testing at all that they needed that that that pushed at Boost I got to get them to still allow those kids to kind of show what they're really capable of absolutely and an end to parents at home if you really trying to help your child move to the next level also have you I'll do a lot of reading because there's a lot of vocabulary there but I also have your child to do vocabulary words every day and I mean Scott from the high school all the way down to kindergarten preschool have them do a lot of vocabulary vocabulary is the key to learning I wish I wish I wish somebody would have told that to me about 30 years ago maybe and I may be in better shape than I am right now a vocabulary is the key all right Larry heard you mention that the 12 words talk about the 12 words and and and what that what that means and and how that is that strategy is working in this County okay the 12 words and those five words for parents are usually on just about everywhere sight on every school right way to County if not I'm sure the students have copies of them where that trays and analyze and infer these are high orders and they're not just words. Which is why they're so affected those are actually Concepts pre-order concept but what we asked each to do some basic things with the 12 words first we ask them to use the word everyday so the students get used to hearing them I ask the teachers to put them on all assessments because if you want me as a student to do well on a standardized test I need to see that same vernacular and nomenclature in structure and rigor on the assessment you give me all year it's not fair to add student or the teacher to test me play all year when I'm going to be tested completely different now the year and year and it finally we we put the words up and I'm asking all the teachers this time of year make sure the words are posted so the kids again why inundated with them and then Dickens used words everyday and extrapolate the usage of those words across the different curriculums parents at home ask your child what are the 12 words have them sing that song to you was just cuz I was just going to bring the song in the music videos I said they're all over the place people have really I mean the kids they know the words they know that the movements that they're they're on board it's not just and it's not just Elementary School I said the very last ends big in service we had Kyle page and goal Academy they he's up there leading the 12 words to know and teach us to really think about can I tell the city student Scott Those are college words those same type of words the same color as those students will see them when they take the ACT they're going to have to analyze formulate infer you're going to have to do who sings when they take the test to be a lawyer they are said to be a lawyer or the MCAT to be a doctor so it's not just something that's in isolation right it's something that what they can use all over and the purpose of the I would have went you to Dubai. the videos is just so the kids enjoy it and have fun with it and that is sticks with them so that's how we have teachers and it's different because it's you're just trying to find another way of delivering the information so it's not just the words are up on the wall inside just to work teachers or use them all the day we've got this fun game that is that I can sit there any of these kids you pointy this kids out of any of these hallways and say hey recite your favorite song lyrics Boom Boom Boom yeah they can do that but when they when they have something that's fun and they enjoy it the same thing it just it just in grades in there and I thought when I first saw that I said this is brilliant it's a brilliant strategy and it is been very effective are we are we weave I I hear the word unravel yes I hear the word in an in apply not just two things happening in LA but also end in math and and some strategies what is unraveling and just kind of letter p know about that that that strategy that's being implemented I want you to know that this strategy is called unravel and it is for long doll passages that students have to read and then the questions after that it is a strategy as a comprehension strategy to help students better understand what they have read it isn't a step method it's almost like a Hands-On weight of students going through long passages and it's a way that people can kind of see what the child knows and what they don't know so you can help them the big hill unravel like the US for underline the title of the passage that we have read the title you can learn a lot about it pass if I mean it's okay I like it just skip over this we underline the title and then make a prediction about wanting to be about now why is this important it causes them to start using prior knowledge is it gets them it's not going look it with those things but the big thing about our mouths when I was just do this when step on it once the student starts reading we have them real likeness a 6th grader read 6 paragraph stop added to the margin and summarize what you just read see that way you as a parent or as a teacher can see where the not the child is actually understanding I want to write what comprehending what is thought to do so well on standardized assessment standardized test you have special ed students are excelling with it you have students who have normally struggle in social studies and Science and language arts who have known passages who all of us when are doing extremely well because they have to read a certain amount stop summarize any adult can say that's good or no let let me let's go back to that and do this that unreliable and I want to remind teachers of something Scott of all the things up is at everyone loves much of work and I want you too but if I'm going to teach you in a crash during this time of year the main thing I want to remember is that. That unravel it's going to help my students almost more than I'm going to do all year because I can see what they're thinking so to speak but what they Circle by what they choose or don't choose it makes me think invisible so to speak and it gives you it gives a teacher the ability you set up a passage down to a student you don't know what's going on and up there you don't know what's going on up there so you you got to be able to figure out hey what's going on and then if there's an issue or problem I can go back in address it where before I'm guessing or I'm looking at an answer that right or wrong you're right when you just give them something to read you have no idea what it accomplished you have no idea what they're doing until they come up with a final choice of whatever and you have no idea how they arrived at that unless you use those steps and Scott we haven't unraveled for word math problems we have one that's what like language arts and science associates the regular unravel and then we also have a lighting unravel when they have a writing prompt there is an unravel for that to you underline the type of writing you need or what-have-you so you underline a prompt and all that and then go to the store so we have that because those things help struggling readers you know that somewhere I read what you doing to the least of these you do unto me so we want to give them right the strategies they need to be settled and unlock in this county has really been a huge success for a lot of these students it's making an impact your you've made an impact well you know they say he uses Ordinary People when I used to think that it was me Scott I got in the but now I realize where my inspiration comes from you I don't do that anymore but I thank you for saying that but inspiring and it's it's it's our people it's it's the people in this County listening comp getting absorbed in the strategies implementing them that's the difference but it's got to start somewhere there are you doing a good job and I'm anything but the truth you are teachers miniature teachers taking my strategy and use them better than I ever could you have some for nominal special ed teachers that have taken and done better I was that a school yesterday and the young lady knows who she is she said to me she said you know I had kind of a kind of monkey kids altogether as to where they're not who could who couldn't she said but I heard this certain motivational speaker at the beginning of the school year and he said whistle to believe in all of our students and she said I've never been the same again she said that you know that's one of the reasons why this school turn into a v many of us we're almost going through the motions and kind of picking and choosing who we talked to do a and then when we started realizing what you said about 100% success for all the kids it really pick it up let me say one other thing I'm not sure how much time we have it I don't want to mention about the testing strategies yes absolutely I want and I want to say to all teachers and parents and two students that might hear this it is critical that you approached the standardized test with a plan you don't back into it as a student parent or teacher you want to know that when you sit there when that child sits down and teachers out here you did a marvelous job last year of making sure every child who went into that standardized testing room had three strategies that they Bill and head internalised you know Mike we are calling the ABCs of testing a always answer every question be sure you can support every answer and then carefully double check your work but many of you had other things that you had those children to do so I'm going to end how are you right now to implore you to go ahead and have those students against start Lighting on the top of their paper there three major test strategies and for teachers and parents also endurance is always an issue I want you to do something had the kids sit for long periods of time and do work so they don't so they're not tired on that test have them practice using the least kind of items of Benchmark items for the testing normal height of an actual structure and vigor or all the but also along with endurance along with the using test items and everything make sure that they have strategies to use when they sit down and just then be very effective if you sit with your you know give them a little neck a calf and knee effusion of a reasons and strategies to get after it on that test it's it's giving week I think my job is a teacher or not I don't know not a classroom anymore but it's it's our job is to give them as many tools as they need as many tools as they need to have success that may not always be the best thing for me but this isn't it this job it ain't about money it ain't about it ain't about being on a radio show or Anna podcast is about them it's about getting them ready to give them and if I don't success level that's we talked about had them having the best success and they can have and putting them in the and giving them the most the right ingredients to have the best success they can have Scott you are perfectly right give them as many strategies as they need whatever tools they need and understand that it's not going to be the same for every child and just because they don't get it one way does not mean it dangerous to try something else George and that movie called Roots we know when they stopped him dinner and said and said well how did you succeed he said when my boss man told me if their first plan don't work get yourself another plant and so teaches you are gay ghost children another plan you are wonderful these teachers I hear a wonderful doing a great job and giving them different ways to be successful every child is not going to learn the same way or the same speed do it like you need to do it googly moogly that's what I'm talkin that's what I'm talking about I don't know this point I can get one today I tried to get him fired up I'm telling you if you get the chance is if you had a chance to work with him I mean my technicians down at the annex were sitting down there one day and they were just looking at it said they were just there blown away cuz of the passion in you know when Larry walks into a room and Larry don't take a lot of credit but it. a lot of passion and energy it just kind of explodes across the room and everybody's excited and that and that's and you could see that excitement he's kind of lit a fire in this County in it and that and that and it spread across and he's doing a great job I am so happy that I've got the opportunity that they have him on the podcast thank you so much for joining us today thank you for having this cat well you can eat Larry Bell. Com if you want to find out more information about Lettin ya Larry how you feel mail.com you can find out more information about what he's got going on the man's all over the world then all over this country been to this County a ton over the last couple years and we are so happy that that he's been a pardon and and help nice move our children for thank you so much for joining us today again I thank you Scott you're doing some great work here that's going to do it for this week's this episode of the BCS Tech podcast next will later this month we're going to have my favorite people in the county Britney Kim's going to be on talk a little work based learning coming up in February we've got all that Robinson or CTE directors going to be on talking about CTE month coming up in February and my tech coaches are going to be in we're all go the Florida to the big fat the future of education and Technology conference down there when the biggest Tech conference edtech conferences in the country so we're all going down there in January so and went in February we're going to come back and talk about some of the new cool things that are happening from a technology standpoint education again thanks to Larry Bell for for being on this episode will see you next time on the BCS Tech podcast

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